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jakegaslamp

@szg28 Yes?

szg28

噗哧。

revoltingly

@deniDeD I assume this is your entry: for future reference, you can request ownership of your artist page here (https://vocadb.net/User/RequestVerification) and once you have done that you have the option to add your own personal artist descriptions for songs; the other description box is more for references or archival information.

goldenchild

https://www.piapro.jp/t/1ocj

mi.chan

Custom name of RRRRR?

ElsideWheetbix

f

jrpf

rip

keizee

heard the news, press f

sdev

This Track is definitely underrated. One of my favs.

WintermintP

@SpaceZinnia Here's your 10+ min song... :3

-Wyntie

keizee

to do: awaiting niconico upload.
this song is related to summer is saturating. pretty sure

goldenchild

vocalist for track 3 is maybe さとうささら & vocalists for track 4 are maybe 初音ミク & GUMI.

keizee

omg why are the english titles different in the official medias hhhhhhhh
adds new alias

GOOD_BOYgoneBAD

It was deleted.. I would like to listen it again :(

jakegaslamp

@AgFlore no problem, I understand completely. I don't believe the song is Shima-uta, it sounds very Chinese to me. I'm not sure if the tag should be removed or not, but it can be left there for now.

AgFlore

@jakegaslamp
I'm not an expert about this. I tagged this because the artist claimed so. 'Trying to tune her into a Shima-uta singing style' (https://weibo.com/1047382521/HocTIidRK), and so on.

jakegaslamp

@AgFlore and @andreoda are you sure these two songs are Shima-uta? I am listening to shima-uta and it doesn't really sound like those two songs that are currently tagged. From what I can gather, Shima-uta is accompanied with a shamisen like strong instrument and nothing else.

jakegaslamp

@riipah I only just saw your response.
Thank you for your guidance, it is an unusual situation.

keizee

somebody made translations in the youtube comments. Anybody wants to verify and add or sth? too bad there's no cc
also the making of video would be great to add.

AgFlore

@keizee Done. Thanks for the reminder.

keizee

editing is locked huh. anyway I found owata's bilibili channel so please do the honours and put it in with the chinese alias. https://www.bilibili.com/video/av45451154 and 錯二氯苯

Wario94

@Revenge319 Oh, I see.

Revenge319

It's just part of the "Unknown" section. It'll likely be updated once all the new songs for Mega39s are revealed.

Wario94

Huh? Where's Alien Alien?

Damianne_Violet

報告する人に：モデレータかアドミンに主張の証明をメッセージしてください。

jakegaslamp

@gift awesome!! Thanks!! ^^

gift

Yes, this is his. He was doing various (mostly non-Vocaloid) doujin work and collaborating with 赤卵 for a couple years before he started his own channel.

jakegaslamp

So this is Kikuo's first ever Vocaloid song? Are you guys sure? This song appeared in an album two years before Kikuo uploaded his first song to his NND channel.
(edit: according to Wikipedia, he's been active since 2002)

jakegaslamp

@u126

riipah

Currently music PV can't be the base version. For corner cases like this, for now just use the original version like it currently is.

AgFlore

I wanted to list https://vocadb.net/S/254330 as the original version of this cover, but I failed.
The PV was borrowed from there, and I wanted to credit the animator by listing the Music PV entry as the original version of this cover. But it does not come up when I search for the entry, either by using its name or by entering the precise URL. Why is it?

harmonious_sunz

oh so it means that he/she doesn't have any name ?

Yumepoii

I love this new girl! You will be my favorite! <3

AndyNewman95Bro

You guys made up a film for us, I imagine, ain’t that right?

AndyNewman95Bro

Uh oh! HERE HE COMES AGAIN!

goldenchild

Good job @Damianne_Violet

Damianne_Violet

@goldenchild Fixed and changed to cover

keizee

when the youtube is lower than both the bilibili and the niconico???

keizee

@rm_ ok looks like you have it covered.

rm_

@keizee since it is a subbed version, it is not a Reprint (100% identical copy), but should be set as "Other" type.

keizee

sadly the youtube reprint makes no mention of the artists.

Damianne_Violet

@goldenchild Fixed, moved the redundant links to the individuals

Vocafan

This does not relate to this discussion but I wanted to point out that I found this song that might be by the producer Hirame Kisho. I did not find it on his nico douga account but I found it as a reprint on billibilli. https://www.bilibili.com/video/av37403080/

riipah

Over here I'm always being asked to fix things. riipah do this and that. Usually nobody even bothers thanking me for it. I'm not going to waste my time and energy arguing about some thing that has been settled years ago, and I see absolutely no reason to change that. End of discussion.

riipah

I don't see how it's not clear that it's a derivative, with that big "C" and "cover" label. The rule is very clear, no ambiguity, and has been like that since the beginning of this website, almost 10 years. Crediting original artists with roles is also how it's also done on other websites. See for example Discogs. It's just that we also have the ability to link directly to original version, so when the original version exists on the website, it's redundant adding the original artists for a derivative. Notice the wording in the guidelines "does not need to be added". I means it's not really "wrong" to add them, it's just redundant.

mi.chan

Crediting the original artist by adding them to the entry can make the derivative work appear official. Crediting them in the description, on the other hand, makes it impossible to browse everything related to them with the default search. I'm not sure what's best, but having this kind of split in rules seems a bit counter-intuitive and I'd rather not make entries look potentially misleading.

riipah

I thought only direct production participants should be credited in covers, remixes and such?

If the original song is on VocaDB. If it's not, then the original (indirect) artist can be added. How else would you credit them?

Just to clarify, the 2 cases:
1. Cover/remix on VocaDB, original song is on VocaDB (Vocaloid or out of scope), no direct involvement by the original artist: original artist is not added to derivative version because they are already credited through original entry.
2. Cover/remix on VocaDB, original song is not on VocaDB: original artist should be added to derivative version because there is no better way to credit them. Direct involvement or not.

Is there any disagreement about this?

goldenchild

and That's what is clearly written here : https://vocadb.net/Help

In the case of a remix or cover, the original composer/lyricist of the song does not need to be credited if the original song is in the database.

mi.chan

I thought only direct production participants should be credited in covers, remixes and such?

pillowMM

Original media was deleted. Found a new video but it's longer. Fairly confident it's the same.